Today I am going to discuss the controversial topic of who Yehshua our Messiah is.

Is He YEHWEH Elohiym, the self-existing Creator of all things or is He His Son?

Most of the confusion comes from pre-conceived ideas that we received from growing up in a society that embraces the Roman Catholic trinity doctrine.

They actually had to add a verse to the Latin vulgate in the 8th or 9th century A.D. to give this false doctrine credibility.

They added a whole verse in 1st John chapter 5.

And they have twisted other translations to uphold their erroneous doctrine as well.

They actually have made this doctrine so engrained in the cultures that embrace Christianity, that the identifying mark of a cult is considered by many to be any group that does not uphold it.

Yet this doctrine did not even exist at the time that Yehshua walked here in the flesh, nor is it found anywhere else in scripture.

Scriptures clearly identify the Roman Catholic system as the mother of all of the whores in Babylon so why would anyone build their faith around their doctrines?

They actually authorized the hunting down and the persecution of the true called out ones of Elohiym.

The trinity doctrine can easily be traced back to pagan origins.

The good news is many are coming out of it but not all of the way out of it.

Many now understand that the Holy Spirit or the Spirit that sets us apart from all that defiles us is simply Elohiym’s spirit and it is not a third being in a trinity.

But they are still holding onto a belief that Yehshua was His Father in the flesh.

I am going to discuss the verses that people use to uphold this belief.

And I am going to discuss what the scriptures say in plain English like when YEHWEH says that Yehshua is His Son.

We have to let scripture define itself because it is not going to contradict itself.

Sadly, even with the proof that I am going to give you today, most of you will reject it in your stubborn pride because you will not be able to admit that maybe you are not “saved” after all as you have been led to believe by the lies.

You might want to consider that Yehshua said that many would be deceived and that lawlessness would abound and that few would find the narrow path before you remain too comfortable in the cesspool that you are floating in.

Where to start, that is the question?

How about we start in the heart of the matter, John chapter one?

These are the most popular verses that people use to uphold their false doctrine.

John 1:1-4

1:1 In the beginning was the Word (Logos), and the Word was with (UNTO) Elohiym, and the Word was Elohiym.

This verse teaches us very much. You hear me speak of the logos of Elohiym often in these videos.

I do because it is the truth that delivers us.

This verse tells us that He was His logos; it is what defines His character.

It is not talking about Yehshua yet.

One word in this verse is severely mistranslated and it throws the whole picture out of whack.

It is the word “with.”

It does not say that His word was with Him, it says that it was unto Him or it was pertaining to Him.

It was His word.

The word “with” makes it imply that there was another being and John was not saying this.

Folks, I keep crying out to you that you cannot trust the translations of men for your eternal life.

YEHWEH told us to guard His word and to hedge about it and to protect it.

His Son told us that we must do the same thing.

Actually, guarding and protecting His word is a commandment.

It is amazing what one word can do to paint an entirely different picture.

But don’t believe me, look up the word.

It is the Greek word “pros”

When Yehshua spoke about someone accompanying Him or two people accompanying one another or anything accompanying something else, the Greek word that the authors used to describe this was a totally different word.

It was the Greek word “meta,” it is not the Greek word “Pros”

Here is one of many examples that “meta” is used to show that it means with in regards to be “with” another;

Matt 9:15

15 And Yehshua said to them, Can the children of the bride chamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is “WITH” them? But the days will come, when the bridegroom will be taken from them, and then they will fast.

As a matter of fact, you cannot find the word pros translated into the English word “with” in one other place where it means to accompany one another, although there are a couple of places that it might appear to mean this at first glance.

There are many examples of the uses of both of these Greek words to compare them.

For you critics you might dig up a couple of other times that the King James or another translation translated the word “pros” into the word “with” to say that I am wrong.

One of the few times is in the following verses.

I say few because even though much of the New testament is in error because it was not written by eye witnesses, the word “pros” is used 700 times and it always means unto or pertaining to, or to as in coming to them, etc., it does not mean physically with them.

The following is one of these mistranslations;

Matt 13:55-56

55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not His mother called Mary? and His brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

56 And His sisters; are they not all “WITH” us? Whence then has this man all these things?

They were reasoning that Yehshua was Joseph’s son and Mary was His mother etc., so how could He be the Son of Elohiym.

But were Joseph and Mary and His brothers and sisters “with” them that day or where they unto them, meaning the same as them, meaning they were flesh just as they were flesh?

There are also many other examples of the different Greek words that are translated as “with”

There are 1,369 times that the word “with” is used in the texts that people call the New Testament.

But only approximately 40 out of the 1,369 times that the word “with” is found is it the Greek word “pros” that is found in John 1:1 & 2.

I say approximately because I was just scrolling down counting and it was used so seldom that it was not worth a recount.

40 divided by 1369 is just over 2 % of its uses.

And when it is found used these approximately 40 times, it would more accurately be translated unto or of like manner or pertaining to, and not “with” as in being “with” them.

My point is, why not look at the 1329 times that “with” is translated from other words and the words that they came from instead basing the definition from the 40 times that it is translated wrong.

Sadly most of you are so stubborn that you would rather let the less than 2% of its uses determine the meaning of the word just to uphold your false beliefs.

This is insanity.

As I said, the word pros is used 700 hundred times in the text of what is called the New testament, there is ample proof, and the word meta is used 469 times for you to compare its uses to.

If you want to base your entire belief off of one word translated by pagan men, that is your choice but I suggest that you fear your Creator enough to check it out.

If John 1:1 was saying that the logos was “with” Him, the author would have used the Greek word “meta.”

I am spending some time on this because it is big error that has helped lead billions astray but they were allowed to be led astray because they did not simply believe Yehshua and His Father.

His Father said;

Matt 3:17


Why not simply believe Him instead of believing the doctrines and translations of men?

Why not simply believe Yehshua?

He said over and over again that YEHWEH was His father.

By not believing them you are calling them liars.

This is important because what we believe is the foundation of our faith and if our belief is in a lie, then our faith is a lie.

John continued in the next verse after he said that the logos was unto Elohiym and that it was Him meaning that it defines who He is by adding;

2 The same (the logos) was “UNTO” Elohiym in the beginning.

3 All things “were made” by or through Him; and not one thing “was made” apart from Him.

If you translate the word “with” instead of “unto or pertaining to” then you can now say that since Yehshua was the logos of Elohiym, then He was with His Father from the beginning.

The problem is, now you have two separate beings, not just one and you have a two legged trinity instead of a three legged trinity but both are false doctrine.

The catholic encyclopedia says that the trinity is a mystery, it is a mystery indeed.

Were there two separate beings at the beginning?

What does YEHWEH Elohiym say on this subject?

Isa 45:18

18 Because thus says YEHWEH who created the heavens; The same Elohiym that formed the earth and made it; I DID NOT ESTABLISH IT DESOLATED, I CREATED IT TO BE INHABITED, I AM YEHWEH AND NOTHING EXISTS APART FROM ME.

He says elsewhere that He is YEHWEH Elohiym and there is no other.

People use verses like these to make the jump from reality.

They say; see, there is only one and they are right.

So since they know that there is only one from the beginning, and since they also want to fit in their erroneous belief that Yehshua was with Him from the beginning, then they have to conclude that they are the same.

The problem with this is; neither of them said that they are the same.

I will address the verses that they twist to say that Yehshua said that He was His Father in a bit, but first I want to finish discussing John chapter one.

The next verse says;

John 1:4-5

4 In Him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shined in the darkness; and the darkness did not lay hold of it.

Is John even talking about Yehshua yet or is it our preconceived ideas that lead us to think that he is because we read into the previous verses that he was with the mistranslated word “with”?

Of course these verses could also apply to Yehshua after He was made to be the logos if that was what John was talking about but it was not yet.

He did “become” the light but that does not happen for nine more verses in John’s recount of this event.

If we read it for how it was written so far it says that;

In the beginning was the logos of Elohiym, it was unto Him and it was Him, it was His logos.

All things were made by or through Elohiym and there was nothing made apart from Him.

In Him was life and the life was the light of men and the light shined in the darkness but the darkness did not lay hold of it.

John is saying that in Elohiym’s logos there is eternal life and that it is the light.

His logos shines in the darkness but people did not lay siege to it. At least most did not. The patriarchs certainly did.

We will find out that he was not talking about Yehshua yet if we keep reading.

John goes on to discuss the time of John the Baptist entering into the scene;

John 1:6-9

6 There “WAS MADE TO BE ” a man sent from Elohiym, whose name was John.

I want to focus on this for a moment.

The King James translates this “there was” a man.

It is the same Greek word that is used in the previous verses that I put the quotes around that show that Elohiym made all things,

Here is that verse again;

3 All things “were made or made to be” by or through Him; and not one thing “was made to be” apart from Him.

It is important to catch this because in just a few verses we will find where John records that Yehshua was also “made to be”

7 The same (referring to John the Baptist) came for a witness, to bear witness concerning the Light in order that all believe through him.

So John came to bear witness concerning the light that would be given to Yehshua.

The King James says that he was to bear witness “of that light” instead of saying that he was to bear witness “concerning the light.”

Look up the words, don’t be doped by the translations of evil men that had preconceived ideas that they used to fit their false beliefs into scriptures.

Is Yehshua even mentioned yet?

No, John is leading up to it and saying that John the Baptist was going to bear witness to the light or the truth so that we would believe.

If you want to merge the previous verses together to say that Yehshua is YEHWEH, you have to throw out the following verses because you will find that He was “made to be” the logos just as John the Baptist was “made to be.” the witness.

So if He was already the logos from the beginning, why did He need to be “made to be” the logos?

And, of course, as I have spoken, you have to call both the Father and His Son liars as well to say that they are the same beings.

8 He (John) was not the Light, but he was sent in order to bear witness “concerning the Light”

9 The Light was the truth that gives light to every man that comes into the world.

He says what the light is, it is the truth.

Yehshua told us that the truth is His Father’s logos, they all fit together.

The word explains itself.

And these verses tie in brilliantly into everything that Yehshua taught and they merge with why we were created.

Yehshua is still not even mentioned in these verses but John is leading up to Him by what he is testifying to.

He is still tying in the truth and how it was given to light our paths.

John 1:10-12

10 It (the light or the truth) was in the world, and the world “WAS MADE TO BE” by or through Him, and the world “did not know Him”

Who is John talking about still?

How is he is talking about Yehshua if He did not even appear on the scene yet?

John came first, although he is not first in importance as we will see in a minute.

So how could the world have “not known Him” yet if He did not come on the scene yet in this chronology according to how the Apostle John is recounting the event?

It is because John is still talking about the light which is the truth which defines who YEHWEH is.

He is explaining that YEHWEH’s logos is the light that was given to light up our path.

The world did not know Elohiym because they loved the darkness rather than the light; Yehshua taught that this is the condemnation of men.

The translations of these verses have perverted this to uphold their false trinity doctrine and the duality doctrine came out from these false teachings.

John goes on;

11 He came to His own, and His own received Him not.

They did not have to butcher this verse because they already had this whole event going a different direction anyway.

It was YEHWEH Elohiym who came to His creation prior to Him bringing forth His Son.

He came to the children of Israel in the cloud by day and the fire by night and other examples that are recorded throughout scripture.

He gave them the light but they loved the darkness, except those few who did receive Him and held fast to what He offered them.

12 But those who did lay hold of Him, He gave them power to become the sons of Elohiym and “THEY WERE MADE TO BE” that believed “INTO” His name.

I am bracketing “made to be” because it is that same Greek word ginomai which means caused to be or were made to be, etc.

It is easy to think that these verses are about Yehshua because we are commanded to believe into His name as well.

Both are saying the same thing because as we will see in just a couple of verses, He was made to be His Father’s logos in the flesh.

What were these who would become sons of Elohiym made to be?

13 Which were not from blood, nor from flesh, nor from the will of man, BUT BORN FROM THE WILL OF ELOHIYM.

He is explaining that once we are “made to be” sons of Elohiym, we are no longer flesh and blood and this is His will that we be born of Him.

At this point, we become spirit and born into His family.

Of course many who are already sealed into His family are still sleeping awaiting this resurrection into the spirit.

John has now led us up to the time when Yehshua is brought on the scene and John the Baptist is bearing witness to all of this and explaining the salvation process.

John had not witnessed the spirit descending on Yehshua yet and entering into Him in this order of events.

In the next verse he says;

14 And the Word (Logos) “WAS MADE TO BE” flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of favor and truth.

This is the first verse that John is speaks of Yehshua directly.

Before he was paving the way and explaining the role of the logos of Elohiym in making us His sons.

The key thing to catch here is the introduction of this verse begins with the word “and”.

Why is it so hard to believe that it is not just how it reads in chronological order?

It is because we grew up with beliefs that became pre-conceived ideas and these ideas block us from seeing it.

Surely you have to believe that salvation was available before Yehshua came onto the scene and before He shed His blood.

And it was, it was available to those who believed “into” the name of YEHWEH Elohiym and His name is defined by His logos.

Yehshua did not come with a different message; He just provided a way for us to be atoned for and He clarified everything.

He said I am the way and the life and He was His Father’s logos in the flesh.

It is so important to know what it means to believe “into” His name, His name is His character.

In this verse we read that YEHWEH’s logos was made to be flesh.

He was given the name the “logos” of Elohiym.

Just like earlier I read that John the Baptist “was made to be the one who would bear witness to the light” and I also read that all things “were made to be” by Elohiym.

The light is His logos.

And just two verses earlier I read that those who will become His Sons “will be made to be” not born from blood nor from flesh but from the will of Elohiym.

15 John bare witness concerning Him (Yehshua), and cried, saying, this was the one that I spoke would come after me that “WAS MADE TO BE” before me because He is first or more important than me.

Why don’t the translations use the word “was made” in verses like this?

It is because it would raise questions and after all, we would not want people questioning now would we?

If they start questioning, then maybe they would not believe the false doctrines anymore and that would be such a shame. Who would put money in the collection plates?

The blasphemes that came out of the mother whore are sick in what they have accomplished.

John goes on to explain why Yehshua was first before John the Baptist;

John 1:16-17

16 Because from the filling for His favor we can all grab hold of or receive His favor. (favor for favor)

17 Because the Torah was given through Moses and the favor and the truth “WAS MADE TO BE” through Yehshua our Messiah.

Of course the king James wants to twist this as well by adding a “but” in there.

And they translate was “made to be” as “came”

Just a little added word here and there or a changed word can make things read differently for sure.

Is John saying that Yehshua replaced the Torah?

In order to say this, you would have to throw out much of the rest of John’s writings and Matthew’s writings.

It is difficult translating things between different languages.

John is just saying that Moses gave the Torah and Yehshua made a way for us to enter into the truth and receive His Father’s favor through a different door.

But both doors lead to the same path that sets us apart.

John is not saying that Yehshua replaced the Torah.

He certainly substituted the sacrifices if we come under His atoning sacrifice.

But His atonement was so that His Father’s Torah could be written in our hearts and in our minds.

This is what Jeremiah recorded YEHWEH Elohiym saying the new covenant would be.

Again, just believe Yehshua, He said that He did not come to get rid of one punctuation mark from His Father’s Torah and He said those who “do” the commandments and teach others “to do” them will be named great in His kingdom.

He did not do away with that which was given to perfect us.

John goes on to record;

John 1:18

18 No man has seen Elohiym at any time; Elohiym has declared that He is the Father of the only one who was begotten from His bosom.

Maybe you don’t think that this is how this verse should be translated.

I’ll simply point you to a second witness, one that I read earlier;

Matt 3:17


Is this not declaring that He is His father?

As long as this is getting, I should probably cut it off and do a part two.

Until I continue on then, but I will leave you with a couple of thoughts before I do part two;

Yehshua was dead and in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights, can the eternal self-existing Elohiym die?

And if He died, then who was there to resurrect Him?

And He had to of died, if He did not, then scripture is in error.

Matt 27:46

46 And about the ninth hour Yehshua cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? this is to say, My Elohiym, my Elohiym, why have you forsaken me?

Did Yehshua lie here too?

Who is He crying out to if He is YEHWEH Elohiym?

And how is He from David’s loins if He is Elohiym?

Oh, that’s right, you want to say from Saul’s teachings that He emptied Himself, whatever.

The depths that people will go to in order to hold onto their false beliefs are incredible.

I know, I believed these lies hook line and sinker as well.

I grew up in them, but the truth will set you free.

His word is truth.

The translations of men are not the truth.

It really is a matter of simply believing our Creator, He said that He would rise up a prophet from our brethren; He did not say that He was going to empty Himself and become flesh.

But people want to believe Saul instead of His words.

And He did not lie to us and tell us that Yehshua was His beloved Son when He was really Him.

And Yehshua did not lie to us and tell us that Elohiym was His Father when He was really His Father.

It kind of sounds confusing and confusing is satan’s job.

Like I said earlier; the Mother Whore says that it is a mystery, go figure.

I’ll continue on with a part two and discuss the other verses that people twist to say that He was His Father.


In part 1 I discussed John chapter 1 and I explained some mistranslations that make it appear that Yehshua was with His Father from the beginning.

I explained how John went through a brief history of man-kind that led up to Yehshua being made to be His Father’s word or His logos in the flesh.

The brief history that John summarized explains the beauty of our Creator’s design by showing that all was made through His thoughts.

He explained that in the beginning before anything was created there was just YEHWEH and His essence.

John describes this essence as the Greek word logos and the translators translated this into the English word; word.

Obviously the written word was not in existence yet so John is referring to the very thoughts of Elohiym.

His spoken word that He had His servants record is merely a blueprint that explains His very thought process and His righteousness to us.

So in the beginning was YEHWEH and His thoughts or His very character are what He is because what we think about and how we think defines our character.

It is His righteousness.

I have defined the word logos before with examples.

If you write or speak a description of an object or a person or a picture of something it is the logos of that person or object or picture.

Words are a description.

Here is an example; a brown haired girl with brown eyes petting a calico cat with green eyes on a park bench gives a partial description of the picture.

But we still do not know many things about it, how old is the girl, does she have her hair in a ponytail, are her parent on the park bench with her, is it the summer time, etc.

Our Creator’s word is the same way, it partially defines His character but we need His 7 spirits to complete the picture.

John went on to say that; through Him or through His logos all things were “made to be” and without His logos, nothing was “made to be.”

Some apparently do not like it when I use the word Logos but it better describes what our Creator explains His word to be than does the English word; word.

I use it as kind of like a summary word so I do not have to write an explanation paragraph every time to explain what the word is portraying.

So how was the logos “made to be” flesh?

John tells us in the same text in;

John 1:32

32 And John the Baptist bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon Him.

Why did Elohiym’s Spirit need to be given to Yehshua if He was already Elohiym in the flesh?

I will tell you why.

It is because He was not His Father in the flesh.

Yehshua was born from a virgin Mother just as prophesy said that He would be.

He had no earthly father but He was still born of the flesh. He had a beginning.

YEHWEH Elohiym had no beginning; His very name means that He is self-existing.

From the time that He “made man to be” flesh in the garden from the dust of the ground, He knew that man would go sideways with the free will that He had to give us in order to accomplish His purpose.

He has showed Himself to His creation in so many ways but His creation has rejected Him over and over again by making Him who they want Him to be.

And by not believing Him nor trusting Him.

They have done the same thing with His Son.

From the time that He decided to build a family through man-kind, He knew that He would bring forth the beginning of His prodigy and enter into Him His very essence or His logos.

This was all pre-planned by Him before He put man here.

He chose to enter His logos into His own Son in order to pave the way into His family.

But in order to accomplish His design, He had to hold back until the 24 elders were molded and fashioned by Him.

They were not resurrected into His family before Yehshua, yet they were prepared and molded prior to Yehshua’s atoning sacrifice.

Yet they knew that Yehshua would follow after them in time.

They were resurrected after Yehshua’s resurrection. We find this recorded in Matthew 27:52-53.

So Yehshua being “made to be” in the flesh was planned by our Creator from the beginning or from the time that He purposed to build His family through man-kind.

This is what Yehshua meant when He said;

John 8:58

58 Yehshua said to them, truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham “was made to be,” I am.

People twist this to say that He said that He was the “I am that I am” or the “I exist because I exist” that YEHWEH used to describe Himself to Moses that he recorded in Exodus chapter 3.

I must be blind because I do not see Yehshua saying this here.

He simply said that He was prophesied to be before Abraham was even brought into existence.

In the verses leading up to this, they were asking Him if He was greater than their Father Abraham and the other prophets and He answered them;

John 8:54-57

54 Yehshua answered, if I honor myself, my glory is nothing: it is my Father that honors me; the one who you say is your Elohiym:

55 Yet you have not known Him; but I know him: and if I say that I do not know Him, then I would be a liar like you are: but I do know Him, and I do hold fast to His Logos.

This must have really riled them up. If you read on, it says that they picked up stones to stone Him.

I bet they did, they must have been furious.

He was telling them that He knows Elohiym and that they did not.

He said elsewhere that His Logos is not His but it is His Father’s logos that sent Him.

If He was His Father, then He would have said that His Logos was His own logos.

It is blasphemous to say that they are the same being, although they certainly are one because they have the same logos, just as we must become the same by having the same logos as they do.

This is why we were created, to be made to be in His image, just as His Son was “made to be” in His image.

He goes on;

56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to “see” (or to know of) my day: and he “saw” (perceived), and was glad.

57 Then the Jews said to Him, you are not even fifty years old, and you have “seen” Abraham?

“Seen” in verse 57 is a different word than what John used to record that Yehshua said to them in verse 56.

They did not understand what He was saying.

They were only hearing Him on a physical plain.

They were thinking that Yehshua said that Abraham “saw” His day and that he rejoiced in what he “saw” with His own eyes and this is not what Yehshua was saying.

He said that Abraham rejoiced when His Father Elohiym let him perceive that He would one day send forth His own Son to be a sacrifice for many.

He spoke to them in parables.

Elohiym stopped Abraham short of offering up His own Son.

Do you think that it is possible that He might have went on to explain to Abraham that one day He would raise up a Son to Himself to be the sacrifice that would atone for all who would come to Him?

I will tell you, it is more than possible because this is what happened.

Abraham was tested with offering up Isaac but YEHWEH also meant it to be a foreshadow of His Son.

Abraham loved His Elohiym enough to obey Him and to leave the consequences to Him.

YEHWEH loves His creation enough that He let His only begotten Son be sacrificed on our behalf.

He manifested Himself in human form to talk with Abraham in the form of Melchizedek.

Don’t you think that He might have told Abraham that one day He would rise up from his seed a savior?

He certainly told David that He would.

Do you think that every story is recorded in the small volume of books that we have of the history of the first nearly 4,000 years?

Of course He shared with Him His plan to build a family and Abraham rejoiced over this.

Was Yehshua there to see Him rejoice or could He perceive these things because His Father was living inside of Him showing Him these things?

That’s right; I said that He was living inside of Him just like they both want to live inside of each of us.

Yehshua spoke this plainly the night before He was killed.

How did YEHWEH accomplish this?

Scripture tells us, His spirit descended upon Him like a dove.

This is part of what John the Baptist was sent to bear witness of.

The apostle John says just two chapters after He recorded this;

John 3:34

34 Because He whom Elohiym “has sent” spoke the words of Elohiym: BECAUSE ELOHIYM GAVE HIM HIS SPIRIT WITHOUT MEASURE.

Yehshua had His Father’s thoughts. He was totally in agreement with Him.

He had His Father’s mind.

This is what His Father accomplished when He gave Him His 7 spirits without measure.

If John was saying in chapter one that Yehshua was His Father from the beginning, then why here just 2 short chapters later is he saying that

Yehshua’s Father loved Him and He gave Him His very own words to speak?

And why is John saying that The Father gave Him His spirit without measure if He was already His Father?

Folks, this is so simple but that two legged trinity doctrine that many of you are holding onto is keeping you from coming into the light.

I said that Yehshua possessed His Father’s seven spirits.

Is this recorded anywhere?

Rev 3:1

3:1 And to the angel of the called out ones of Sardis write; these things says He that has the seven Spirits of Elohiym…

The book of Revelations is John’s recordings of the revelations of Yehshua our Messiah.

Yehshua is speaking of Himself.

It was prophesied by Isaiah that Yehshua would be given these 7 sprits.

He did not have them already; they had to be given to Him;

Isa 11:1-2

11:1 And there will come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of His roots:

2 And YEHWEH’s spirit (1) will “rest” upon Him, and the spirit of wisdom (2) and understanding (3), the spirit of counsel (4) and might (5), the spirit of knowledge(6) and the spirit of the Fear of YEHWEH (7);

Yehshua was this rod that came forth from Jesse. Jesse was David’s father.

This is very simple if we just believe His word.

Saying that He is His Father is what makes it complicated.

These verses say that He had the spirit of the fear of His Father.

The following verses go on to add even more;

Isa 11:3-5

3 And will make Him of quick understanding in the fear of YEHWEH: and He will not judge after the sight of His own eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of His own ears:

Yehshua said for us not to fear man who can only take away our physical life but that we should fear His Father who can take away both our physical life and our eternal life.

He said I judge no man, yet my judgment is true.

He said this because His judgment was not His own.

He said that He could say nothing unless it was given to Him by His Father to speak it.

He did not rely on His own perception or His own hearing.

He was given His FATHER’S spirit without measure.

How do these statements of His line up with this verse?

They are a perfect match.

The next verse says;

4 But with righteousness He will judge the weak, and reprove the humble of the earth with equity: and He will smite the earth with the rod of His mouth, and He will slay the wicked with the breath of His lips.

Is this not what He is returning to do?

He is returning with a rod of iron and a sword out of His mouth.

5 And righteousness will be the girdle of His loins, and faithfulness the girdle of His reins.

These verses describe Him to a “t” and it is clear that He would come forth from David’s loins and David came from Abraham’s loins.

If He was YEHWEH already, why did He need to have these 7 spirits given to Him?

Other verses that people use to try to prove that He is His Father are verses like;

John 14:8-9

8 Philip said to Him, Master, show us the Father, and it will suffice us.

9 Yehshua said to him, I have been with you for such a long time and you do not know me Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER; why do you say show us the Father?

See, they say, see, He said that He is the Father.


Why not simply read the very next verse;

John 14:10-11

10 Do you not believe that I am “”IN”” the Father and the Father is “”IN”” me?

“I DO NOT SPEAK OF MYSELF WITH THE WORDS THAT I SAY TO YOU:” but the Father that DWELLS IN ME, He does the works.

This might have been a good time to tell us that He was the Father don’t you think?

Instead He says I am not speaking of myself.

He goes on to add;

11 believe me that I am “”IN”” the Father, and the Father is “”IN”” me: if not, believe me for His works' sake.

He went on and taught that as long as we are keeping the commandments and that His logos was abiding in us, then He and His FATHER would also dwell “”IN”” us.

To twist these verses to say otherwise just to uphold a doctrine that came from satan’s servants is blasphemous.

People also want to quote;

Isa 43:11

11 I am YEHWEH; besides me there is no savior.

Well, before you want to hang your hat on this one you might want to evaluate what YEHWEH is saying.

There is no deliverance out of this flesh apart from YEHWEH Elohiym and He is the one that gives eternal life.

His deliverance is offered through His Son’s blood but He is still the one giving it.

YEHWEH Elohiym is our Savior. It is just that He offers us eternal life through His Son and His Son represents His logos.

His Son’s blood was shed on our behalf but that does not make Him the savior. His Father is the one who delivers us through His Son.

He is the one who entered into His Son through His 7 spirits in the first place.

Just like He is the one who wants to enter into each of us through the power of His 7 spirits as well.

He is the one who created His Son, yes, He created Him. He “made Him to be” just as John recorded in chapter one.

Just as He “made all things to be.”

The Hebrew word used here for savior means allot more than just being given eternal life as well.

It means to be delivered or to be given safety.

It is used 207 times in the Old Testament and applies to different types of deliverance.

There is no deliverance from anything unless He allows for it and there certainly is no eternal life for any of us unless He gives it.

Yehshua said that no one can even come to Him unless His FATHER draws them in.

Why wouldn’t He have said that no one can come to me unless “I” draw them in?

As you should be able to see by now, it is preposterous to say that He was His Father.

And, as I said in part one; you are calling them both liars if you say so.

I had better include a couple of other scriptures though in case any of you still are holding onto them;

Matt 1:23

23 Behold, a virgin will be with child, and will bring forth a son, and they will call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, ELOHIYM WITH US.

Hopefully by now you can see that Elohiym’s logos or that which defines His very character and His thoughts entered into Yehshua.

His nature came into His Son, just as He wants to come into us.

This is all this verse is saying.

Yehshua was without a physical father as this verse shows and just as John recorded, He was the only one who was ever begotten by His Father.

How did this happen?

We are told 3 verses earlier;

Matt 1:20

20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of YEHWEH appeared to him in a dream, saying, Joseph, you son of David, fear not to take to you Mary to be your wife: because that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.

He was “made to be” by His Father, plain and simple.

He had a beginning, His Father did not.

Yehshua said several times that He descended from heaven.

Why did He say this? It is because He did.

The logos that was in Him came down to Him through His Father’s 7 spirits.

We all came from somewhere. Maybe you are from Texas. Yehshua is from heaven.

It is His origin.

He also ascended into heaven as His Father raised Him and prepared Him before He entered into Him through His spirit.

John the Baptist “was made to be” in order to bear witness or to testify concerning this so that we would believe.

Why don’t you believe him? This is what he was sent to do.

Yehshua was His Father’s very character in the flesh.

He was and is His thoughts in the flesh.

Just as we must aspire to become the same with them, or “made to be” in total agreement with their logos.

This is why we were created.

John recorded in chapter one that when we become sons of Elohiym, we are no longer born of flesh and blood, but of the will of Elohiym.

It is His will to “make us to be” His children but we have the choice to want it and to fight for it.

Scripture says that Yehshua is sitting at His Father’s right hand.

If He was His Father, why would He be sitting at His right hand?

He would be sitting on the throne Himself.

I can only think of one more verse right now that people want to throw into the mix, although I am sure that there are others.

It is found in;

Zech 14:3-4

3 In that day YEHWEH will go and consume those nations, and consume them in the day of battle.


We know that He is sending His Son to return in His power and in His glory and that Yehshua’s feet will stand on the mount.

So people say see, He is YEHWEH because here it says that YEHWEH’s feet will stand on the mount.

Yehshua will be wearing the name King of Kings and Lord of Lords on His robe and on His thigh and His robe will be dipped in blood.

I liken this to wearing His Father’s name and carrying His banner.

It is like belonging to a team, you bear that teams insignia.

And we are commanded to bear His name as well if we are to become His family.

He will stand on the Mount of Olives that day as His Father’s ambassador.

If that is not good enough for you and you want to say that He lied all who knows how many times that He referred to Himself separately, that is certainly up to you, you have free will.

People want to even take their false beliefs into what Yehshua said when He said that He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end instead of just believing Him and believing His Father.

The point is, it is just a matter of believing them and believing the prophesies about Him instead of twisting translations to say that He was Elohiym when He clearly taught that His Father was in Him.

And why not just believe John the Baptist who saw His Father enter into Him when His spirit descended upon Him?

I am sure that there are other verses that some of you might have questions about.

I am pretty sure that I covered the main ones.

If you want to use verses that came from Saul of tarsus and his disciples Luke and Mark in order to defend your belief like Saul saying that Yehshua emptied Himself, etc., that is your choice as well.

Saul has led billions away from the truth.

This really is a straight forward situation.

The only thing that clouds it is the pre-conceived ideas that we grew up with that came out from the mother whore of Babylon.

Just look at the source that the doctrine that He is His Father came from.

Nowhere did Yehshua say that He was His Father, He said that they were one as we must be one with one another and with Him.

They were in total agreement because they had the same logos, the same logos that each of us must hunger and thirst to have.

Before He left for the garden that night He prayed to His Father.

In that prayer He said;

John 17:21-23

21 That they all may be one; AS “YOU,” FATHER, ARE IN ME, and I am in “YOU,” THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that “YOU” have sent me.

22 And the glory which “YOU” gave to me, I have given to them; that they may be one, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE:

23 I in them, AND YOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that “YOU” have sent me, and that “YOU” have loved them, as “YOU” have loved me.

This sounds allot like the favor for favor that John spoke of in chapter one that I spoke of in part one.

It certainly does not sound like He was giving them a closing prayer that they would understand that He was His Father does it?

Just look at all of the times that He separates Him as being separate in just these few verses alone, just as He did throughout His teachings.

You might think that His closing prayer might have been a little different if He was actually His Father, eh?

He finishes off His prayer with these verses;

John 17:24-26

24 Father, I will that they also, whom “YOU” have given to me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which “YOU” have given me: Because “YOU” loved me before the conception of the world.

He loved Him before the He conceived anything else of this world because He knew that He was going to sire Him and send Him forth to bring many into His family through Him.

Oh, how patient He has been in building His family.

How much love He wants to bestow upon us, it is incredible to think about the work that He has gone through thus far to build His family.

And His creation has caused Him so much sorrow in the process.

25 O RIGHTEOUS “FATHER,” the world has not known “YOU:” but I have known “YOU,” and these have known that “YOU” have sent me.

26 And I have declared to them “YOUR NAME,” and will declare it: that the love wherewith “YOU” have loved me may be in them, and I in them.

He certainly refers to His Father separately allot doesn’t He?

Sounds pretty simple, it is all about the family business.